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Anthar Thebess
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Posted - 2014.06.30 10:14:00 -
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Currently Orca and Rorqual are unbalaced that's why both ships need massive re purpose from the mining perspective.
Both still have strong role in running mining links.
On the other hand both ships have currently inadequate ore cargo size when you compare it to dedicated T1 haulers , new t2 haulers , or freighters that can pickp stuff from space.
So changes i propose:
Orca / Rorqual :
- increase ore cargo hold to 800k m3
- shift main cargo hold to corporate cargo and increase it by 50%
Orca :
- add 2 additional highslots and increase link numbers so that this ship can run more links
Rorqual :
- add ability to mount Capital Strip Miners*
*capital strip miners - work only in deploy mode , harvest at rate 1000 m3 / per cycle all surrounding asteroid at range 10km.
So the more asteroid in range , the more ore you can harvest.
Now what is most important.
Make mining links to be only applied to "on grid" ships.
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Anthar Thebess
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Posted - 2014.06.30 10:51:00 -
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You are right.
But putting those ship on grid is one of the ideas.
They are already limited to Low/Null space.
We can just add some restriction to the module itself:
Quote:Activating in the vicinity ( 100km ) another capital strip miner destabilizes both modules and make all materials from this cycle to be vaporized.
So max 1 Ronqual per belt.
I'm thinking about putting this on system belts rather than ore anomalies, but this can be done by increasing of asteroid spread on ore sites.
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Anthar Thebess
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Posted - 2014.06.30 12:14:00 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:Keep in mind people use orcas for other things than just mining.
You mess my orca up and I will cut you (out of the highsec, by ganking).
I hate higsec , neut camp on each gate 
Check my suggestion :
- add 2 additional highslots and increase link numbers so that this ship can run more links
- shift main cargo hold to corporate cargo and increase it by 50%
So Fleet hangar : (40000 + 30000) * 1.5 = 105.000 m3
A bit less than currently orca can achieve , still this is in one cargo hold , and you have low slots and rigs that can be shifted to fit other needs.
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Anthar Thebess
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Posted - 2014.06.30 16:01:00 -
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This 800k m3 is for ore only.
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Anthar Thebess
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Posted - 2014.07.01 07:24:00 -
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Elusive Panda wrote:Not against improving the mining aspect of the Orca, but don't destroy it's "high-sec carrier" aspect. PLEASE.
No one is talking about changing this.
Why give orca 800k ore bay?
Because currently Freighters are capable moving as many goods easily , any type of goods, and this will be ORE only bay.
Primary role of an orca is supporting mining operation , so having orca capable hauling as many ore as freighter is logical item.
Will it obsolete new industrials?
No.
Those T1 haulers cost 2mil each , have minimal skill requirements.
Orca cost 500mil + and have to be trained to be used.
800km3 ore hold will put more pressure to have this ship on the grid.
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